Ognian pisze:Witaj !
Tak chodzi mi o te rodziny. Oni mieszkali w Joliet.
1900 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Zobel - to jest 1- sza rodzina o ktorej pisalam w poprzednim poscie.
1910 United States Federal Census
about Mikel Zobel i
1920 United States Federal Census
about Michael Zubel / Zobel
Michael jest synem Josepha i Anny.
Grazyna
Niestety nie ma manifestów dla obydwu rodzin.Muszą Ci wystarczyć daty emigracji zawarte w censusach.
Gdyby się nawet zachowały te listy to i tak nie dowiedziałabyś się z nich do kogo jechali.
Na tych listach z lat 80-tych wieku XIX było bardzo mało informacji:
Nazwisko i imię ,ile miał lat,narodowość i zawód.
Jest tylko manifest Augusta i Anny ale nie zgadzają się daty i płyną sami.
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about August Zobel
Name: August Zobel
Arrival Date: 8 Jul 1882
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Age: 23
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Bremen, Germany
Destination: United States of America
Place of Origin: Prussia
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Prussian (German)
Ship Name: Donau
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Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 24
List Number: 943
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
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New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about August Zobel
Name: August Zobel
Arrival Date: 6 Aug 1896
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Age: 31
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Bremen
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: German
Ship Name: Havel
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Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 3
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New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Anna Zobel
Name: Anna Zobel
Arrival Date: 3 May 1883
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Age: 21
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Le Havre, France and Plymouth, England
Destination: United States of America
Place of Origin: Germany
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: German
Ship Name: Amerique
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Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 35
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
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Cook County, Illinois Death Index, 1908-1988
about K Annie Zobel
Name: K Annie Zobel
Death Date: 8 Mar 1921
Death Location: Cook County, IL
File Number: 6006826
Archive collection name: Cook County Genealogy Records (Deaths)
Archive repository location: Chicago, IL
Archive repository name: Cook County Clerk
Social Security Death Index
about Charles Zobel
Name: Charles Zobel
SSN: 346-05-8611
Last Residence: 62379 Warsaw, Hancock, Illinois, United States of America
Born: 10 Mar 1888
Died: Dec 1967
State (Year) SSN issued:Illinois (Before 1951)
Cook County, Illinois Death Index, 1908-1988
about Charles Harry Zobel
Name: Charles Harry Zobel
Death Date: 21 Jun 1972
Death Location: Cook County, IL
File Number: 617316
Archive collection name: Cook County Genealogy Records (Deaths)
Archive repository location: Chicago, IL
Archive repository name: Cook County Clerk